Profitable Prospectin’ for WotLK
Mar 22, 2009 Auction House, Crafting, Patches, Professions, Resources, Wrath of the Lich King
This is the first of many guest posts. Richard (Twinkletoes - EU Kul Tiras) sent me this article two months ago and I promised him to post it as soon as I could. Unfortunately, my recent injury significantly delayed it, but the basic concepts are still valid. A belated thanks Richard!
Ever since the release of the Profitable Prospectin’ article from last May I have been an avid prospector making enough gold to kit out my main and alts.
With the release of WotLK came new Ore and new Gems. AH prices have been fluctuating for the core materials and it took some time for this to settle however the wait is now over and we have enough information to dust off the article and give it an update.
The basic principles are still the same, work out the price of the resulting gems a prospecting session should make; if they’re worth more than the raw materials then it’s worth it. In the original article we stuck to Adamantite Ore and for WotLK Saronite Ore is the ore of choice.
I will leave the maths explanation for the original post but the theory is still very similar. There is a 24% chance to drop a blue gem and a 108% chance for either 1 or 2 green gems.
Test Results
Over a two week period I bought 112 stacks of Saronite Ore at 35 Gold each for a total investment of just over 3.9k. This prospected into the following:
| Gem | Number | AH Price | Total Sale Price | ||
| Scarlet Ruby | 24 | X | 1000000 | = | 24000000 |
| Monarch Topaz | 15 | X | 643500 | = | 9652500 |
| Autumn’s Glow | 12 | X | 875200 | = | 10502400 |
| Forest Emerald | 15 | X | 188100 | = | 2821500 |
| Sky Sapphire | 20 | X | 352600 | = | 7052000 |
| Twilight Opal | 13 | X | 425700 | = | 5534100 |
| Bloodstone | 77 | X | 69300 | = | 5336100 |
| Huge Citrine | 57 | X | 64800 | = | 3693600 |
| Sun Crystal | 55 | X | 38400 | = | 2112000 |
| Dark Jade | 62 | X | 39400 | = | 2442800 |
| Chalcedony | 70 | X | 21900 | = | 1533000 |
| Shadow Crystal | 62 | X | 27800 | = | 1723600 |
If we AH everything we prospected this would result in sales of 7.6k. With an initial investments of 3.9k that leaves us a profit of 3.7k.
For the theorycrafters amongst you the 112 stacks should result in 3.5k profit (I was lucky on a few extra Scarlet Rubies).
What’s interesting is the time required to make this much gold. By far the most time is spent doing the prospecting itself and then placing the gems on the AH at the right price. I would estimate that I spent about 1 hour game time for the above test.
Tips
This probably goes without saying but spend a little time tracking Saronite Ore on the AH at different times and on different days. Find the highs and lows on both prices and availability.
Ore is generally cheaper on the weekend and on my realm there are only 10 or 12 stacks below my target price at any one time. I aim to clear these out most days depending on how much I have invested in gems.
As with the original Profitable Prospectin’ post, this will only work over a large amount of prospects. Prospecting for profit works on the law of averages and you need a large enough sample size to justify the expense.
Although I put most of my green gems on the AH I am also saving a fair number of stacks back for the soon to be released Icy Prism. On that note, look out for cheap Frozen Orbs.
Having a Jewelcrafter at your disposal will greatly increase your profit on the blue gems. The higher level gem recipes are gained through the daily JC awards and running various instances. As a guide, the top ten gems from my realm make an extra 50 to 70 gold per sale. We got 99 blue gems from the test above and if we converted just half we would have made an extra 3k on top of our 3.7k of profit.
Enchanting changes in patch 3.0.8
Jan 5, 2009 Auction House, Crafting, Farming, How-To, Investing, Patches, Professions, Wrath of the Lich King
As we covered a few weeks ago, some enchanting recipes are being changed in the upcoming patch. Thanks to well-formatted post at MMO-Champion, we’ve got a much better idea of what’s being changed - nearly all the Wrath enchants!
Many of them are having their dust and essence (especially essence) requirements lowered, some have had Dream Shards added or Dream Shards to replace Abyss Crystals. With the additions of two new tanking enchants, we can definitely expect Dream Shard prices to rise - probably double or triple their current cost. I’ve been stocking up over the last few weeks and I’m already seeing the prices climb from 4-5g each to about 8-9g each. And the increases in price isn’t stopping any time soon.
I have not yet heard if the patch is coming during tomorrow’s maintanence or not, but it has to be soon. You still have a chance to pick up some more dream shards before the auction house is cleared out and inflation sets in.
Arena Season 5 starts today! What are you gemming?
Dec 16, 2008 Arena & Battlegrounds, Class Specific, Crafting, Investing, Patches, Resources
Another late post! No more slacking from me, I promise!
I just got done watching my server slowly count down to shutdown. You know what that means? Arena Season 5 with lots and lots of new gear! A few dozen sets of gear, at least!
Just like Season 4, I hope you stocked up and prepared for enchanting and jewelcrafting because they’ll be hot, hot, hot over the next week or two. Last season, our readers together earned hundreds of thousands of gold profit. Enchanting materials (dust at least) didn’t seem to do as well as expected, but essences sold quick. What sort of surprised me was how much was made from leg armor and spellthread - huge profits in these areas. I stocked up on Frozen Orbs with plans for Icy Prisms, but I may start crafting the new spellthread instead.
Jewelcrafters did well too since most of the gear needs socketing. In Wrath we have some new, unique cuts designed specifically for PVP. I’m hoping to see these gems take off in price. If you’ve been running heroics over the last few weeks and you have a small pile of Stone Keeper’s Shards, go grab the new Jewelcrafting patterns from your Wintergrasp quartermaster - most of them are just 12 shards a piece.
Now, before you run off trying to be the first to login and buy up all the mats on the AH, let us know what race and class you play mainly and what gems you’ll be using for raiding, arenas, and battlegrounds. I can’t be an expert in all classes, so your recommendations will help us all invest properly with a wide variety.
Winter Veil Inflation
Dec 16, 2008 Auction House, Crafting, Farming, Gathering, Holidays, How-To, Investing, Professions, Wrath of the Lich King
I’m sorry I didn’t get this post up sooner so you guys could start preparing. Wordpress has been giving me some trouble lately. If the most recent updates don’t fix it, I might have to move to a new blogging platform.
Winter Veil is finally here and so is the inflation. Most of us have seen it before - hundreds of gold for stacks of Small Eggs among other things. It brings back memories of WoW’s first Winter Veil and farming the hell out of owls in Teldrassil for eggnog.
With many players going after the Merrymaker title, a few of the player-created items are in very high demand. This demand has caused the materials to skyrocket in price, giving us an opportunity to earn some major cash. Seeing as this post is a little late, we won’t be able to invest in much. But some quick and easy farming, even on low level alts, will prove to be very profitable. Here are some items you should look out for and sell while the demand lasts:
- Wool Cloth and Bolts of Woolen Cloth
- Runecloth and Bolts of Runecloth
- Rugged Leather
- Copper Ore and Copper Bars
- Small Eggs
- Deeprock Salt - this is a big one, going for about 20g each on my server. Deeprock Salt can be turned in with 5g for five Preserved Holly.
The following may be profitable investments as they can be purchased cheaply from vendors. I’ve often started earning funds on new bank alts by selling a few Rune Thread on the auction house for a few hundred percent markup - the markup and demand are likely much more significant at this time of year.
- Rune Thread
- Green Dye and Red Dye
- Holiday Spirits and Holiday Spices
- Ice Cold Milk
Hopefully there’s still time for you to take advantage of the holiday madness. Let me know how you do!
Tags: Seasonal
Icy Prism, the new Brilliant Glass
Dec 13, 2008 Crafting, Investing, Patches, Professions, Wrath of the Lich King
After being the proud owner of nearly every Engineering pattern in the game (save for very few, rare green ones) for about two years, I decided it was time for something more profitable. There just wasn’t much Engineer-only recipes in Northrend to make it worth while. I dropped Engineering for Jewelcrafting and leveled it up just before the expansion. After hitting 80 and farming a few stacks of ore, I dropped mining and leveled up Enchanting (I wish I had gone Inscription instead, but I’ll probably just roll a DK for that).
The upcoming patch has a lot of disappointing changes (I’m a hunter), but I’m very excited for the new Brilliant Glass of Northrend, Icy Prism! Even better, it’s made from those three uncommon gems I seem to have the most of: Calcedony, Shadow Crystal, and Dark Jade. It also requires a Frozen Orb, which could make it a costly endeavor for now, but I’ll bet it’ll still be profitable after cutting the resulting gems.
I was going to write about Frozen Orbs and other rare materials, but it seems I might be a bit late, so I hope you were selling them as soon as you got your hands on them. In the first week or two of Wrath, Frozen Orbs were going for 300-400g on my server, Abyss Crystals made a few hundred more. I made a killing on them during that time. Now that the Frozen Orbs are down to about 50g each, it’s probably safe to start stashing them away for Icy Prisms. I haven’t heard if they have a chance to turn over epic gems, but it should still be profitable regardless. If epic gems are released through Icy Prisms, we’ll be insanely rich!
I have a neat little prospecting calculator that’s nearly finished to give you an idea of how profitable prospecting is on your server. Across the few servers I’ve checked, uncut uncommons go for a few gold a piece and uncut red, orange, and yellow rare gems sell anywhere between 50g and 90g. If this sounds like your economy and Saronite Ore is around 25-30g a stack, it’s probably safe to prospect the hell out of it. You’ll get some profit out of uncut gems, but way more out of cut ones. Just find the most profitable cuts and get those recipes before the competition does - and sell, sell, sell!
Speedy Scribe: Power level your Inscription in patch 3.0
Oct 10, 2008 Crafting, Farming, Gathering, How-To, Patches, Player Interaction, Professions, Resources, Wrath of the Lich King
The inscription powerleveling guide I’ve been working on is finally complete! Naturally, there may be a few mistakes, so I urge you to try the guide on the PTR or once 3.0 goes live. If you find something wrong or you have a better route for a certain portion of the guide, feel free to leave a comment and let me know!
At the moment, it’s pretty pointless to level inscription past 350 as there are no new recipes for 355 and beyond. The only way to learn new recipes after 350 (and the only way to learn minor glyphs) is through Minor Inscription Research, which has a 20 hour cooldown. Below are the materials required to get to 350 inscription. The pigments come from different sets of herbs, which you can see on Wowhead by clicking each pigment’s name. The average return of each herb is about 2.5 pigments per mill (5 herbs), so you’ll need about double the amount of herbs to get the necessary pigments listed below. I plan on having one extra stack of each as a buffer in case of bad luck.
- 60x Alabaster Pigment (~6 stacks of herbs)
- 40x Dusty Pigment (~4 stacks herbs)
- 134x Golden Pigment (~14 stacks of herbs)
- 118x Emerald Pigment (~12 stacks of herbs)
- 114x Violet Pigment (~12 stacks of herbs)
- 110x Silvery Pigment (~11 stacks of herbs)
- 130x Nether Pigment (~13 stacks of herbs)
The following uncommon pigments have a chance to be milled from each set of herbs. With the volume of herbs required for the pigments above, you should have no problem getting these pigments.
- 10x Burnt Pigment
- 10x Indigo Pigment
- 5x Ruby Pigment
And finally, the parchment below can be bought from the inscription supplies vendors near every inscription trainer.
- 60x Light Parchment
- 121x Common Parchment
- 155x Heavy Parchment
- 30x Resilient Parchment
Now that you’ve stuffed your inventory full of materials, let’s plow through this guide. I started out at the Ironforge trainer until 300 Inscription, then moved to Honor Hold to finish up. You’ll need to make a few trips to and from the bank to mill the herbs and use the pigment, but make sure you mill enough Nether Pigment to bring with you to the Outland to get from 300 to 350 inscription.
Wrath: Introducing Inscription and Herbalism
Jul 19, 2008 Crafting, Gathering, Professions, Wrath of the Lich King

This post will be one of many analyzing the data we receive from the Wrath of the Lich King beta. If you have beta access or a spare key and wish to share information with us (or loan us a key), we’d love to hear from you! Please leave a comment and let us know.
Inscription is the new profession in Wrath of the Lich King and has been mentioned numerous times over the last six months. However, we never really knew what materials were required for this new craft. Until a few days ago…
It seems Herbalism is the complimentary profession to Inscription. To inscribe spells or scrolls, ink is used. Obtaining ink is much like Prospecting for gems - you crush five herbs using Milling for one (or more?) ink.
From what I’ve heard, the first three low level inks (Ivory Ink, Silver Ink, and Earthen Ink) require the first three low level herbs (Peacebloom, Silverleaf, and Earthroot respectively). I can only assume each successive herb is used for it’s own color/type of ink.
This is going to be huge for the herb market! Mining is primarily used for Blacksmithing, Engineering, and Jewelcrafting while Herbalism’s only major profession is Alchemy. Inscription is Herbalism’s new best friend in the expansion and we will see a significant rise in herb prices, especially in the first few weeks. I’d estimate 5-10x in the first few weeks (especially for the lower end mats, not so much the higher end ones), and slowly drop down to 2-3x current market prices where it’ll likely remain.
I’ve got six “storage bins” ready for herbs, so I’ll be stocking them up like mad over the next many weeks. According to my girlfriend, Wrath is scheduled to launch November 3rd, so we have plenty of time to buy all the herbs our little bank alts can hold without artificially inflating the market and overpaying.
Buckle up, it’s time to get waisted!
May 5, 2008 Auction House, Crafting, Farming, How-To, Patches, Player Interaction, Professions, Raiding
I’ve recently realized that with the BOEification (copyright, me) of Nether Vortices there may be a very real market opportunity in crafted epic belts. It must be noted that with the lifting of attunements in Hyjal and Black Temple, many raiders are adamant on upgrading every possible slot outside of the actual instance in order to counter bad drops and push through content faster. It should also be noted that some of the upgrades to the waist slot over the following crafted BOEs come well into T6 content and therefore these items are often well worth their while.
Now this might require a lot of free cash (1K+) and several relists but could net you a few hundred gold in profit. Be sure to check the AH to see if there is already a crafter on your server participating in this market… if there are too many, your profit might be too small to justify the risk. If not, I would try listing them for 12 hours around about 5 or 6pm server time… this will catch the attention of players getting ready to raid. You might also want to advertise in trade chat that the item has been placed in the AH.
Blacksmithing:
Tailoring:
Leatherworking
Risk’ometer: 3
Profitable Prospectin’
May 1, 2008 Auction House, Crafting, Patches, Professions
Edit: The math wasn’t really wrong after all; just poorly laid out.
I wanted to take a look and see at what price levels prospecting might be profitable. For simplicity’s sake, and also from what I’ve heard in the Jewelcrafting circles, let’s keep this analysis exclusive to the big one, Adamantite Ore. From Wowhead’s data, it looks like each prospect has a 22% chance to drop a blue gem and an 80% chance for 1.37 green gems (either 1 or 2 green gems will drop).
Anyways, here’s what to do:
- Find out the average selling price of a blue gem on your realm (add up average prices of Talasite, Noble Topaz, Living Ruby, Nightseye, Dawnstone and Star of Elune and divide by 6). Let’s call this x.
- Find out the average selling price of a stack of Adamantite Powder (20). In my experience, this doesn’t sell too well, so you might want to vendor instead. Let’s call this z.
- Find out the lowest price you can get a stack of Adamantite Ore for (20=1 stack). Let’s call this y.
- 22% chance for a blue gem from 5 ore.
- 80% chance of 1.37 green gems every 5 ores= 4.38 gems per stack. 18 green gems=1 blue gem (Brilliant Glass). That means every 4.11 stacks, or 82 ores, you have a guaranteed blue gem. [1/(82/5)]=0.06.
0.22x + 0.06x + 0.05z= expected gold from one prospect (5 ores).
0.28x + 0.05z (simplified)
y= price of 20 ores (see above).
If [(0.28x + 0.05z)*0.95]>y/4, then prospect. Simplified: 1.064x + 0.19z>y.
If you’re vendoring the powder, use 1.064x + 0.9>y, then prospect.
NOTE: This is assuming the gems prospected sell on their first listing.
NOTE2: This will only work over a large amount of prospects. The main reason for this is so that the sample size is large enough to justify the equation but also that you get the necessary green gems for Brilliant Glass and so that you get enough variation in your blue gems.
I’d like to note a couple more things regarding patch 2.4.2. First of all, Brilliant Glass is now set to be on a 20 hour cooldown, which is a slight improvement, but which still may be a roadblock for getting rid of those green gems. An alternative would be using them to transmute Skyfire Diamond or Earthstorm Diamonds. Or, you could straight up sell them in the AH although this may be slightly riskier due to the huge supply. Secondly, I’d like to note that, according to the patch notes, there is now a slight chance for Brilliant Glass to yield an epic gem, which means that this may be even more profitable than it appears. However, I do emphasize the small in “small chance” and this shouldn’t be something you rely on.


